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Lunatic The Messiah

What’s the science behind your name? Or Is there any?

Well, LUNATIC was my street name since I was, like, 16 or 17 years old on up trough my hustlin’ years, and it stayed the same until about ’98 when I was incarcerated for about 2 1/2 years. That’s when I met a guy who sort of blessed me with the additional “The Messiah” to add to LUNATIC, because at the time, LUNATIC wasn’t totally dead, but I was becoming a lot more spiritual and knowledgeable about so many things. I was teachin’ a lot of cats in the joint, so Messiah just stuck.

What do you think of Mainstream Hip Hop?

I think that mainstream Hip Hop is 90% commercial bullshit that is having a very negative effect on the next generation of Hip Hop heads. I mean, I don’t think that it had the most positive effect on our generation, but I guess we’ll see. The main thing I see is that there are more and more cats who get in it for the money and aren’t true to the art. It’s like you don’t have to be a lyricist anymore. You don’t need any REAL skills to blow up anymore. You just gotta talk about bullshit material things that don’t matter.

How was your upbringing?

I can sum it all up in one word…………PROJECTS!

What inspired you to become a hip hop artist?

I always wrote good poetry back in grammar school, so when I was introduced to rap back in the mid-80’s, it was like a destined alliance and I’ve been rappin’ since I was about 10 years old.

What other hip hop groups do you listen to?

I listen to Mos Def, Canibus, Lauryn Hill(love her flow!), Common, Busta Rhymes, Wu-Tang, Red Man, Xibit, Emenim, among others.

How would you describe your music?

Very versatile. My main styles are East Coast oriented because I’m originally from the East Coast, but I flow in many rap styles and also reggae. I also write R&B songs in English and Spanish, plus other types of music as well. I once even wrote a country song for a band down in South Carolina. They loved it. Music is music, and I believe that a true lyricist can write in any style or genre of music.

How would you describe yourself?

Not to sound vain or anything, but as the tightest lyricist alive.

What are your future musical plans?

To establish, by whatever means necessary, my own label, and put out my squad of MC’s. I wanna put Chicago on the map as the next big hub for Hip Hop. This is a practically untapped market that has a whole lot of talent.

Out of the songs you’ve created, what is your personal favorite, and why?

“Not Enough”– Because it epitimizes my struggle.

Where can fans listen to some of your music?

Have you ever rocked events, if so, what was your favorite event you rocked?

Chicago’s annual WGCI/Miller Lite Freshest MC Contest. I won it in April of 2000 and Chicago’s WGCI radio station invited me back in April of this year to rock the mic alongside Ja Rule.

Have you ever found Jesus?

Yeah, I found him, but he told me that he is not the Creator and never tried to make people believe that. He was a political revolutionary who wanted to free his people from Roman rule. He was a Messiah, like me.

How long have you been rhyming? How do you see hip hop, and you? Do you see Hip Hop as a religion, art, culture, a career, job, or just a hobby?

I’ve been rhyming for about 15 years. I see myself as the next best thing that ever happened to Hip Hop. I see Hip Hop as all of the above and more. Hip Hop is my entire life, every aspect.

Do you have any hip hop quotables that you live by? Any song lyrics ever touched you?

Common’s “I Used To Love Her” is a song that definitely touched me and is one that I would consider a Hip Hop quotable in it’s entirety.

Give fans five reasons why they should listen to you, over any other given artist?

I rap true shit. I don’t rap about a bunch of shit that I don’t have, I don’t brag about anything that I can’t or wouldn’t be willing to back up at any given moment. My flow is very versatile, something to suit everyone’s listening needs, I’m very creative and I don’t rap about the same old bullshit in every song on my album like a lot of MC’s do, and my music makes you think.

Do you have any player haters? Or any words you would like to make to player haters who frown on your music? Or is there any?

I haven’t really had a lot of cats hate on me, first of all ’cause my shit is tight, but second of all because they know I’m real and they would look really stupid hatin’ on some real shit.

As an independent artist, how do you find the music industry? What resources online have lent their support to you, and your music?

I see the music industry as a very prejudiced business. It’s hard for independent artists to come out if they don’t have any dough. But there are avenues to getting your music heard.,,, building your own web site, and many others.

Do you have any shot outs you would like make?

To all the Cadre cats who are about to blow with me this year! My fam’, all the MC’s I’ve ciphered with, all the Gods and Goddesses out there trying to keep their heads on right. Much love!

Interview by DaHipHopPlace.Com


What’s the science behind your name? Or Is there any?

Matai) A friend of my father’s who was Samoan gave me that nick-name as a child and told me that it meant Big Chief in Samoa.

What do you think of Mainstream Hip Hop?

matai) I love it. I think it’s great that Hip-Hop is so huge Underground and Mainstream and that allot of other Genres of music want to tap into it as well.

How was your upbringing?

It was very,very ruff growing up in a family that was extreamly poor and at times homeless. One of the highlights of my childhood was growing up a neighborhood where it was prodominately black and being the only Puerto Rican family there. Everyone wanted to eat our food and learn spanish. It took a while for many folks to realize that just because we spoke spanish didn’t mean we were Mexican. I grew up pretty hard but one thing my dad always instilled in us was the love of music.

What inspired you to become a hip hop artist?

I grew up listening to the Beastie Boys,LL,Run D Mc,Fat Boy’s just to name a few. They made me feel like I can express my self and have fun at the same time plus have people from all over the world hear me do it.

What other hip hop groups do you listen to?

Jurassic 5, Mystic Journeyman, Beatnuts, Redman, Fat Joe, Cuban Link there’s so many plus I listen to so many other styles as well.

How would you describe your music?

I wouldn’t say straight Hip-Hop but it’s a cross between Pop,R&B,Hip Hop mixed with some Salsa(got to have my roots) I love to explore and try new things with my music.

How would you describe yourself?

Vey calm, patient, hard working and loving to everyone, even if I don’t know you.

What are your future musical plans?

I want to travel the world performing my music and hopefully landing a Major Record Deal. If that doesn’t happen then I will keep on doing this independently and get my music heard as far as it possibly can. I would also love to be able to put other artist out as well. But only god can tell right?

Out of the songs you’ve created, what is your personal favorite, and why?

I have a song called “I’m thru with it” featuring a rapper by the name of Awoll. I love it because it’s a true story that happened to both him and I. The girl is continuously leaving me to cheat and then comes back when she’s done. She always said she loved me and for a long time I believed her and took her back. I gave her pretty much everthing she wanted. Finally I got smart and got rid of her for someone who loves me to death now. (I didn’t cheat though. I waited until I left the girl! Ha!Ha!)

Where can fans listen to some of your music?

matai) Straight off of my site or and enter in my name.

Have you ever rocked events, if so, what was your favorite event you rocked?

matai) Yes! Ventura County Fairgrounds, Ventura Ca., August of 1998. Next and Naughty by Nature where also there. And recently, Cal Lutheran University in Thousand Oaks Ca. March 2001

Have you ever found Jesus?

matai) Most definitely! He always been in my life for as long as I can remember. He’s number 1.

How long have you been rhyming? How do you see hip hop, and you? Do you see Hip Hop as a religion, art, culture, a career, job, or just a hobby?

matai) I’ve been singing since the age of 6 and rhyming since about 8 or 9. I see Hip-Hop being around FOREVER! and me being a part of it for as long as I’m here on this Earth. Hip Hop to me is everything you just asked except for a hobby. Religion, art, culture, career, and job! If it was a hobby then I wouldn’t take it as serious as I do.

Do you have any hip hop quotables that you live by? Any song lyrics ever touched you?

matai) So many songs and lyrics have touched me but I can’t say that I live by any of the quotables I’ve heard. I did hear a very good one from my Pastor that I do live by. I asked him one day ” Pastor Marshall, What’s my talent or gift in life? What does the lord want me to do?”

He replied “What’s the first thing that comes to your mind when you wake up in the morning?” I told him my music and he said “That’s your gift in life and that’s exactly what the lords wants you to do. If you love what you do then do what you do as long as you love it”

Do you have any shot outs you would like make?

matai) Yes! To you guy’s for showing me so much love and wanting to help me get out there! One Love…Matai

Thanks guy’s


Interview By DaHipHopPlace.Com

Mike Control

1-What’s the science behind your name? Or Is there any?

We came up with the name Mike Control from our style we use on the mic, passing the mic back and forth. The passing the mic back and forth style, you have to at all times know what each of us are about to do. You have to be mad tight and have control. The word Mike is just word play for the word microphone.

2-What do you think of Mainstream Hip Hop?

I really don’t listen to mainstream hip-hop too much, maybe a track hear and there. Really cause you have no choice, its always in your face, on MTV or the bigger radio stations. Most of it to me sucks, their all about material things. And that’s not what I’m about. I’m into a lot of underground hip-hop groups.

3-How was your upbringing?

My upbringing was OK, I had to work for anything I ever wanted. And hard work does pay off.

4-What inspired you to become a hip hop artist?

Just the love for the music growing up around hip-hop in the late 80’s early 90’s. Hip-hop was on the rise, it made me want to be apart of the music as much as possible. And I knew with the people I was around we could make a difference, or at least offer a sound that peeps would be into, if we can get the chance to catch their ears.

5- What other hip hop groups do you listen to?

Smut Peddlers, Del, Kool Keith, afu-ra, Dilated Peoples, Canibus, Molemen, Non-phixion, Scram Jones, Beatnuts, to name a few, oh yeah almost forgot puff daddy (laughs) yeah right!

6-How would you describe your music?

Hard-core, Old school feel, Bangin beats, killier lyrics, Different

7-How would you describe yourself?


8- What are your future musical plans?

Were going to put out another single on vinyl in late Sept. early Oct. With three new tracks. One will be a posse cut with a few other cats from here in Brooklyn…The name of the track is Brooklyn ill spitters. Stay tuned the beats is bangin…

9-Out of the songs you’ve created, what is your personal favorite, and why?

Out of all our tracks it would be hard to pick one, but I would have to go with “Mind Bending” Its my favorite track to do live, it really gets the crowd moving at shows. We also been getting a lot of positive feedback from this track.

10-Where can fans listen to some of your music?

Fans can go directly to our site ( and download or stream two tracks by clicking on free mp3’s. We also have an on-line exclusive remix of Mics I Grab which you can download. Checkem out, then I recommend you buy the EP. You can also hear sound clips of all the tracks on the EP.

11-Have you ever rocked events, if so, what was your favorite event you rocked?

We rocked mad events, we are always doing shows in our local area, and soon to expand. If I had to pick one event, it would have had to be our record release party, the place was jam packed and the crowd was really into us. We even played our instruments that show, and did old school covers of Rock Box and No sleep till Brooklyn instrumentals.

12-Have you ever found Jesus?

I don’t go to church regularly, but I do believe in Jesus.

13-How long have you been rhyming? How do you see hip hop, and you? Do you see Hip Hop as a religion, art, culture, a career, job, or just a hobby?

I been rhyming about 10 years but only since 98 on a serious level.

Hip-Hop to me is a culture and an Art. I don’t see it as a hobby cuz its something I live and is apart of my everyday life. It is something I would like to make a career one day.

14-Do you have any hip hop quotables that you live by? Any song lyrics ever touched you?

Off the top I can’t think of any quotables right now. But I know a lot of things Rakim and KRS said in their early days stayed with me.

15-Tell us more about your most recent album release, “The Introduction.” What was your inspiration behind this album? How is it doing? Is it receiving the play you expected it to?

The Introduction is a 7 track lyrical assault with neckbending beats, that we wanted to put on the underground or any available ear that will listen. We wanted to get this out, because of the frustration we were feeling with current state of commercial hip-hop today. And show peeps what two kids from Brooklyn were feeling and can do on basically no budget and all heart. The album is doing OK, we just have to work on more distribution, promotion, and getting it out to college radio. I feel it will do even better, as the more people hear our material. Its tuff being an indie artist. You have to do everything your self.

16-“Mics I Grab” is ill, mos defz, what was your inspiration behind this track? Through your eye’s how would you describe this track?

We just wanted to bend everyone’s head off their neck,(laughs) when Grey laced the beat, we were ready to spit and just take out anyone in out paths.

17-As an independent artist, how do you find the music industry? What resources online have lent their support to you, and your music?

It is a very tuff place to be in. You have to work mad hard with help from no one. You must have a day job to pay for all the expenses, like studio, promotion, equipment, printing CD’s, etc. And you have to dedicate all your time to it. Its like running your own business. You cats at have no doubt been a help to our movement and many other artists getting their name out there. We like to thank you guys for that, and will not forget it.

18-Do you have any shot outs you would like make?

I’d like to thank you guys for taking the time to do this interview with us. I’d like to say whats up to all my people’s here in Brooklyn got mad love for all of you. And I would like to announce that we will be performing at this year’s (NXNE) North by North East festival in Toronto this year. Our show is June 8th, 12:00 PM @ The Comfort Zone, 480 Spadina Ave. I recommend that anyone close to this event try to make it, we will no doubt take you to another level. That’s about it, just want to remind anyone that this is only “The Introduction”

Interview by DaHipHopPlace.Com


How is it you found enough time to drop production for 5 successful albums in 2004, including your own LP? Was 2004 a seriously busy year for you?


You really made the connection between death rap and metal, especially on The Pre-fix for Death, with appearances by Slipknot and Hatebreed. You plan to incorporate these two styles together in the future? Do you find the two styles better on their own?


How long have you been involved in metal, playing guitar and bass?


Tell the readers about Secret Society.


Any movies or screenplay in the works?


What can you bear listening to besides Psychological hiphop?


With such a built reputation for tight production, are more artists trying to get at you for beats?


Any tours coming up that the readers should know about?


Who are your top 5 most hated individuals?


Wheres the porn at?..Let these people know.


What sites can we check you at?


Any last words?

YEAH YOU ALL DIE!!!! – New Necro Album, “THE PRE-FIX FOR DEATH” IN STORES NOW!! Home of Necro, ILL BiLL, Goretex, Sabac & Mr. Hyde

ILL BILL – “What’s Wrong with Bill?” – solo debut IN STORES NOW!! GORETEX – “The Art Of Dying” – solo debut IN STORES NOW!! SABAC – “Sabacolypse – A Change Gon’ Come” – solo debut IN STORES NOW!! MR. HYDE – “Barn Of The Naked Dead” – solo debut IN STORES NOW!!







by Eric Bourdage for DaHipHopPlace.Com

NECRO Exclusive Interview

1. So when did the Necro saga begin?


2. Is it true you started doing metal before rockin’ the mic?


3. Who are your most notable musical influences?


4. Although you did production for other cats like Cage and Missin’ Linx in the past, are you focusing strictly on Psycho+Logical and getting your own shit heard these days?


5. You also directed a couple flicks, and the I Need Drugs video. Were 187 Reasonz Y and The Devil Made Me Do It projects you enjoyed?


6. Can fans look forward to future movies and/or videos?


7. What would you say is your favourite topic to rhyme about?


8. Since the Gory Days release, what can listeners expect from you in the near future?


9. Respect definitely due for staying independent. Is the Necro product getting sold as much as you have been expecting?


10. Have you and Ill Bill always had each other’s back musically?


11. You also got a smut site on the go?


12. How does Necro like his ladies?


13. What is your ultimate goal?



By Eric Bourdage for DaHipHopPlace.Com

Nowledge Of Self

What’s the science behind your name? Or Is there any?

The statement “Nowledge Of Self” is the very science to our name. We strive

for complete nowledge of ourselves, our fans, and our environment. It is the

most important aspect of survival, and ultimately succeeding in Life.

What do you think of Mainstream Hip Hop?

Well music is music, even though the creativity and culture is a little

watered down for the masses. Its still a good way to gap the bridges of

music. since it appeals to a grater amount of listeners

How was your upbringing?

Id say good, based on morals respect for people, respect for truth and most

importantly respect for life. I didn’t really grow up in the ghetto or nothin

like that. I lived like any other kid in LongIsland

What inspired you to become a hip hop artist?

The absolute love for good music, its gotten me through so much throughout my

whole life, I loved it so much that i just had to be a part of it.

What other hip hop groups do you listen to?

Hmmm anyone that does good soulful music basically, the Roots, Black Star,

Mos Def, Kweli, De la Soul, Common, Slum ville, I listen to us alot haha.

How would you describe your music?

Music that sets ur soul free, music that inspires to do positive things, but

definitely music u can relate to. Very soulful, sometimes very energetic, and


How would you describe yourself?

As a person id like to think of myself as a thinker, im always thinking. Of

was to improve or just ways of getting through the day. As an artists, im an

artist that does music that tickles ur mind, makes u happy , makes u reminisce

What are your future musical plans?

I plan and hope to spread our music and

other good music throughout the world and maybe universe, neva know, and to

change the mindstate of people in general.

Out of the songs you’ve created, what is your personal favorite, and why?

Ha “Its Nowledge Of Self”

I love that joint just for the fact is so real to me and so vivid, and i

think Nowledge Of self as a group has matured on that song , so thats my


Where can fans listen to some of your music? , Um , on the

sounds icon, no www on it. click on

download demo

Have you ever rocked events, if so, what was your favorite event you rocked?

Yes and my favorite was when we opened up for buck shot. The crowd was sooo

live man. It was ill, another close favorite was at a local event called

hivestock, we rocked that joint!

Have you ever found Jesus?

Not yet i was hoping he would find me first, and i believe he did.

How long have you been rhyming? How do you see hip hop, and you? Do you see

Hip Hop as a religion, art, culture, a career, job, or just a hobby?

Well Ive been rhyming since i was 8 in Long island. It was so much part of my

life when i was growing up. I see HipHop as us. Its nothing more nothing

less. The people are hiphop. Its a way of life only a few are blessed to

truly live. I am hiphop i believe. Because its more of a way of life than

just me yelling or talkin over a beat. Its life , its in the air, its

beautiful. I dont see hiphop as a religion, but it very well could be, and

some people make it as that. Its more like a precise and beautiful gateway to

finding ur self if used right. It will help you see the real religion in you,

not a church or a place of worship.

Do you have any hip hop quotables that you live by? Any song lyrics ever

touched you?

So much has touched that i couldnt even start to tell you. But one of my

quotes i live by is ” Life is so amazing /so try to figure out the role u

played in /my souls craving/ for the earths equations. Its deep when u think

about it

Do you have any shot outs you would like make?

To the “Higher Force” Thanks for guidance and clues to help me get where i

need to be, E Shabazz that was on the moment of truth gangstar album. .. My family

in Ny, Dutch massive , Steelo and abuse in Ny Big ups!

Is Tampa making a move on the industry?

Most definitely. Theres so much talent that if one of us broke through down

here we would literally take the industry over.

Is there anything for sale of Nowledge Of Self?

Actually there is at this site. . the Aberfoyle Springs

Compilation. Its under our camp name though Rugged T’Reign.

Are there any name we might know on the album?

Pretty much its a underground album. You may of heard of Dutch Massive

formerly of Equilibrium. We may have some production from DJ Spinna.

Peace. Respect. Props.

OPE aka O Asiatic

What’s the science behind your name? Or Is there any?

My name was originally OPUS ONE, my Grafitti name. My boys called me OPE (LIKE HOPE W/O the H) for short. O*Asiatic is just a spin off name I use to reflect a little more culture.

What do you think of Mainstream Hip Hop?

I think mianstream Hip Hop is just that “Mainstream” There will always be those who like to find another way to get to the smae placd you are going. I’m one of those people. That’s why I chose indie.

How was your upbringing?

My upbringing was OK. I had the same struggles the average Black Family living in America had to deal with. Making ends meet, discrimination, black on black crime, etc. Not much different.

What inspired you to become a hip hop artist?

I ‘ve been a part of Hip Hop culture for a long time. I’ve been in all

aspects except DJing. This aspect is the closest to it that I got, and I like it here. Plus I get to mix a little of all the other aspects through the music. I make beats, I write my rhyme in old Graf style ( that’s 2 in one). When I perform, I dance a little (sometimes) or I let the DJ rock. So I get all elements of Hip Hop involved.

What other hip hop groups do you listen to?

I listen to any Hip Hop that Grabs me. It’s just that simple.

How would you describe your music?

I describe my music as Original Beats with Razor sharp lyrics that reflect Street experience (knowledge), and revolution.

What are your future musical plans?

My future musical plans are to finally release GET SHORTy! on the streets. Finish my partner Ben Hooks’ CD. and to get some mainstream and indie production work.

Out of the songs you’ve created, what is your personal favorite, and why?

My personal favorite right now as far as material that’s out now would have to be Ready fo’ ya head! that song launch a serious On Line presence for me ( and it’s reached # 1 on the East Coast chart). It’s a fan favorite. It doesn’t even really represent where I am lyrically now though.

Where can fans listen to some of your music?

Fans can find my CD available for single song download or CD purchase right now at Free music site are ,

Have you ever rocked events, if so, what was your favorite event you rocked?

I’ve done shows on the indie circuits. No big deal events. None really stand out right now. That’s why when I finally put GET SHORTy! out for the world, I can do the type of shows I really want to do.

Have you ever found Jesus?

No disrespect, but I prefer to leave religion separate from my music discussions 🙂 Fan’s don;t really care as long as good music remains good music.

How long have you been rhyming? How do you see hip hop, and you? Do you see Hip Hop as a religion, art, culture, a career, job, or just a hobby?

I’ve been rhyming for at least a decade ( not serious the whole time). I’ve been involved in so many aspects of Hip Hop that It’s just in me. One way or another. I have a constant connection. It’s is a Job as far as running my label goes though.

Do you have any hip hop quotables that you live by? Any song lyrics ever touched you?

I’ve been inspired by so many lyrics that you don’t have the time. One of my main lyrical influences is Kool G Rap.

“Mad City” is definitely a hot track, what was your inspiration behind creating this track? From your eye’s, what’s this track about?

The main inspiration behind Mad City! was Amadou Diallo plus calling my man Ben out of Hiatus, and the war in Kosovo. My man Substantial blessed the hook perfectly.

What was your basis for naming your most recent album “Get Shorty”?

The reason My CD is called GET SHORTy! is cause I just like that title since the movie came out (with Joh Travolta). My project was just the right opportunity to use it.

As a independent artist, how do you find the music industry? What resources online have lend their support to you, and your most recent album release?

The music biz is just like any thing else. You get out what you put in. Alot of heads think uploading an MP3 is enough. It takes a lot more. I’m well trainined musically and i music business so I know what has to be done. I make no complaints, you have to move your ass to make things happen. the support I’ve received for this release would look like a whose who of on line music. I thank them all greatly but, ther are too many to ention right now. I definitely THANK Hip Hop Hot Spot ! ! !

What artists are you currently working with these days?

I am currently working on a project for my main man Benjamin Hooks (from GET SHORTy), his project will be 10 times better than mine, a compilation called the West Bank (which is me, Ben & the Little Egypt Family). PACK FM should be releasing some of the tracks we’ve done over the last couple of years real soon, and just grabbing some production work here and there.

Which of the mentioned artists did you combine with to create the best, most hip hop blessing tracks? Which are you most excited about?

Benjamin Hooks was the first artist on OPE ENTERTAINMENT since 96. He will finally get his debut CD after a lot of sidelining. This will have to be one of the best CD’s I will ever produce.

Do you have any production secrets to share?

My production secret is this: Don’t get caught up in the gear you use to make beats, have your own style, and don’t limit your sources for inspiration.

What do you think of sampling? Do you sample a lot of material to create beats? If so, what type of music do you most sample?

Nothing wrong with sampling at all, that’s Hip Hop. I won’t reveal my sources though. I will gladly say to don’t use those bullshit computer programs with loops and pre set drum patterns. Everything comes from my fingers. EVEN after I sample it.

What is the best equipment to use when creating beats? And what equipment do you use?

There is no BEST equipment to use when making beats. Like I said earlier, don’t get caught up in gear. I use the EPS 16+, and the ASR10.

What are the steps in making a good beat from beginning to end? Please tell us what’s your methodology?

In my opinion, a good methodolgy, is being in the right frame of mind. catch a vibe, keep some inspiration in your head when you go to do beats, otherwise, they have no feeling if you are just doing them to do them. Get amped off that new CD you just bought, or out of sheer fun buya foreign CD and just trip out off of it. You will be amped to do something afterwards (if you have an honest drive to do this- and I don’t mean for the money).

Do you have any shot outs you would like make?

SHOUTS GO TO: My Wife and daughter, Ben Hooks, Visual Poetics and all of Little Egypt, Big Men-S, Substantial, Al Nazon, Winz, Sheldon Warner, Elf, My mom and all others who help me in this struggle to make it.



Interview By DaHipHopPlace.Com

OPE aka O*Asiatic Reveals Production Secrets

How long have you been in the game?

I’ve been a Producer for almost 10 years, I picked the mic back up in 1996. That’s when I started OPE ENTERTAINMENT. I’ve been into Hip Hop culture, everything except DJing since I was 12 or 13.

In your total Hip Hop experience, what have you seen that you’ve appreciated? How have you seen Hip Hop evolve?

I’ve seen it go from one aspect of Hip Hop being recognized (Music), back to all the elements being recognized. The exploitation by advertisers with the goal of reaching new cash has caused them to include all the other elements when they talk about Hip Hop again.

I’ve also watched Hip Hop from a musical stand point turn into one of the most uncreative and lucritive ventures in America. Simply because of the audiences need for sex and violence to be nearby in almost everything that equates to fun. The originality doesn’t get enough credit any more.

Do you feel that Brooklyn is still the home of Hip Hop? Why?

I never felt Brooklyn was the home of Hip Hop. Only the Bronx can make, and take that claim. I believe there are two places a lot of people hold in high regard as far as Hip Hop goes: That is South Central L.A. and Brooklyn. In my experience these are the two places I’ve also seen so many punks front and act like they are from. It’s funny when I catch someone out there. Happens about once a year.

You receive a lot of credit for your beats, and I admit it’s well deserved, but how do you feel about your beats? Where do you feel your production stands in underground Hip Hop today?

I still feel slept on. The good reviews and the work from out side sources hasn’t come piling in by the truckload yet, but, on a skill for skill basis, I feel I’m better than over 70% of the underground producers. I think when heads hear my CD, GET SHORTy! it will change the amount of recognition I get, and prove my statement to be true.

Now, for the aspiring producer, what equipment do you use to produce your beats?

I keep it basic and cost efficient. I have my own 24 track studio so without having to worry about where to go to lay things down, my mind can stay focused on the beats and rhymes. I currently use an ENSONIQ EPS 16+ (THE WORKHORSE), ENSONIQ ASR 10 (ASSISTANT WORKHORSE), DR 550 MK2 DRUM MACHINE, ALESIS RY3O DRUM MACHINE, VARIOUS INTERNATIONAL PERCUSSION and STRING INSTRUMENTS (STUFF I BUY WHEN I GO ABROAD ON VACATION), and UNLIMITED ACCESS TO SOUNDS AND EFx. I’ve also stopped looping (using loops to make beats) in my production since ’96. People are fooled all the time until I invite them in for a listening session.

The punches leave my mouth wide open, and coming from someone I only know as a producer, I was shocked. By the lyricism, I’m assuming you were an emcee before you were a producer, am I right? I so, how did you get into producing, any mentors?

Well, in terms of you being correct, yes and no. See, I learned how to emcee very young–about 8–but it was just fun to do it because of this West Indian cat on my block who had an echo-chamber–for those of us reading who are that old. The emcee skill never left me. Once I decided to officially get into to the musical side of Hip Hop, I entered it as a producer who knew how to rhyme. I just couldn’t leave Hip Hop alone after break-dancing got too silly for me, for a moment in time, and I got tired of being out in the dead of night bombing as a graf artist. People started killin’ you for that shit.

What are your influences in rhyming and production? Your favorites? Least favorites?

My Production mentors are: The Bomb Squad (Public Enemy), Dr. Dre (Straight Outta Compton, DOC – Funky Enough), and Eric Sermon (EPMD, Redman). My Lyrical mentors are Kool G Rap, Redman, Chuck D, and Xzibit–who is killin’ ’em right now!

My least favorite is anyone claiming to do this shit–and love it–but complains about other heads that’s eatin’ right now. If you hold it down, your time will come.

Whose affiliated with the OPE ENTERTAINMENT camp? And what are the upcoming projects for these members?

Right now we are pushing my CD, GET SHORTy! which features Benjamin Hooks, the first emcee I started out with, Big Men-S, another producer, and Pack FM, now known worldwide. Artists in development are my lil’ homies Winz and Ten (Gino), MicOn, which you know pretty well and The Troublesome Yankee (T.Y.). The next project after that will be a joint effort between myself, Ben Hooks, and the Little Egypt family (Visual Poetics crew, also from Brooklyn). That EP will be called the West Bank.

As you know, Hip Hop hits a new height every year on the Internet. Kids drop albums who haven’t been in the studio once in their lives, but at the same time, heads use the ‘Net to their advantage for promotion and feedback. How do you feel the internet has affected Hip Hop, and does the ‘Net look promising for Hip Hop’s future?

As cliched as it sounds the Net has “leveled the playing field”, but it still takes hard work to make even an Internet strategy work. I’m excited about the fact people can make an album at home,–I’ve never been a fan of big commercial studios–but if the feedback says your product wasn’t tight, go back to the lab and tighten those laces. You have a whole bunch of pussies who can’t take criticism fuckin’ up every music site and dicussion board in the world because some said “You should’ve made that snare drum louder”. Once you weed out those punks, and once the majors realize the ‘Net has been their friend all this time, it should be a much better place in the not too distant future. I’m excited about the possibility of both of those events happening.

Where do you stand on the Napster issue? Is it a positive thing, or is it stealing from artists?

I don’t care how much of someone’s music you get online, to me it’s not really the best quality, nor the quality that it was intended to be heard in. There’s nothing like owning the CD or tape to me. I’ve received a small amount of praise for my work just based on the few songs I have online. It has translated to product sales and production work for me, and I aint cheap, so personally, I can’t say it’s hurting.

In your opinion, what were last years highlights? Who would you like to see more of in 2001?

2000 was no big deal besides the return of Dr. Dre and the well-deserved props for Pharoah Monche. His album was blazing. Everything else was business as usual to me. For 2001, I hope my man Xzibit goes Platinum, since he’s pretty close already–all hail the underground! And more of me and my crew would be nice, don’t you think?

If you had the opportunity to produce for and/or rhyme with any emcee(s) on a track, who would it be, and why?

Redman ’cause he’s crazy. Rakim–It would be an honor. Kool G Rap ’cause his technique with words is still the illest. Chuck D so we could produce the Official Revolution anthem, no sing-songy bullshit. A song that might kill us both. Xzibit ’cause he’s the underground flagship. No matter what song he’s on he stays true to the underground. Pharoah Monche, I wouldn’t rhyme on that one, I’ll just watch. Phife Dawg, I’m glad he’s solo now!

And last, is there anything you’d like to say?

Thank you, for you support. I fully endorse the realness of your site. Keep it up. Best wishes for 2001. To all those who will read this go to [OPE @] and see for yourself what good Hip Hop from the underground sounds like. Look out for the GET SHORTy CD available online first starting February 2001. In stores in March 2001.

interviewed by Jeff



How’s Hip Hop look from where your standing?

I would have to say that it’s pretty much were it’s expected to be, given everything

that has shaped it in the last few years.

When you begin to forge lyrical gems, what techniques do you use? How do you get in the mood to swing with the microphone dynamics?

I think of the type of song i would like to do, then try to create a track that has that feel to it. Then I write what comes to mind. Hooks are

almost always the last thing i come up with, because i want it all to make sense.

What’s the science behind your name? Or Is there any?

OUTTHERE comes made up of three points:

1. and mainly is my thought zone. when something hits me, a thought or idea, i sometimes leave the room

in my head and think so deeply, that people have had conversations with me and i didn’t hear more than a few words.

2. I am really big on the unusual in terms of Psychology, Theology, and other things like that. I mean i’m genarally

normal (whatever that means), but i like believing in possibilities as opposed to just facts. I dont walk around all

mystic like or anything, I’m just a regular guy with bigger thoughts studying life.

3. I like Sci-Fi

What inspired you to become a hip hop artist?

It was bound to be a part of my life in terms of being an actual artist, cause Hip Hop as a whole is one of the few things

that moved me as a kid. In 80 or 81, i turned on the radio and heard “The Breaks” by Kurtis Blow for the first time, and

it was the nuttiest thing i ever heard. Other than that i was listening to Michael Jackson, Kiss, K.C. and the Sunshine Band,

Salsoul Orchestra, basically classic R&B and Disco. After hearing “The Breaks”, i started paying attention to the other songs

like it being played and of course there was The Sugarhill Gang, Adventures of Super Rhyme (Jimmy Spicer), Treacherous 3,

and Davey DMX. Artist like that turned me on to everything else. I was breaking by 83. i also tried my hand at Grafitti, which was

probably my weakest skill, and was deejaying by 85 approx.88 was the year i decided to produce as well as deejay cause it was a

lot cooler to play your own music at a party along with the standards. It should be noted that most of my deejaying was of House

music, cause i was doing house parties and that’s what it was all about back then, but it coninued on till about the end of 93 when i

was expecting to be a daddy, so i had to chill for a while. from 94 to 97, i was trying to make ends meet and take care of my girl

and son, plus her daughter. By 96, i was fed up with garbage work i was doing for minimum wage, so i enroll in school for Computer

Repair. I met a lot of catz in that place that brought my old love for Hip Hop back out of me, and in 97 i started making tracks again

and by 98, i put together my first compilation. Rap and Spoken word, rugged but thoughtful was the best way to describe “Da Raw Dirty I”

which it was titled. I produce the majority of the tracks on their with my long time partner P-Stock, who i didn’t mention earlier, but was

responsible for me doing house parties and tracks in the first place. I worked with like 20 people on the first project and then did a sequel

featuring 20 more catz, and both CD’s got their share of buzz when we pressed them up. I did do a little work on the mic for both projects,

but none i’m particularly proud of because rocking the mic came more out of neccesitty then a natural instinct like the best catz seem to

have. I did grow to like speaking my peace over my own tracks, so that’s where this solo album came from. Not that I’m better then the

catz i worked with, but i had a relatively clear vison of what i wanted to hear, and my attempts might only bring me 50% of the way to

getting it, but that was 25% closer than i was getting with all the catz i was working with. Everybody got skills, but i was looking for

something specific. So here I am.

What other hip hop artists or groups do you listen to?

Of the very few catz i listen to in the present, i would include Jay-Z, GhostFace, mostly, with a little Outkast, and various mp3 artists.

The majority of the rest are old school legends like G-Rap, Guru, Nice and Smooth, Tribe, Krs, Kane, Craig G, Masta Ace, etc.

How would you describe your music?

I would call a Thin line between Underground and Mainstream. I never believed in making extremely obscure beats to distance myself

from pop music or to make pop music specifically just to make that radio hit. I am founded in R&B and respect it a lot, so there might

be the hint of that throughout my album and other work. I mostly try to make something that you feel before you hear.

How would you describe yourself?

I’m a hell of a guy. what can I say. I make happen for myself, what most catz complain that no one will do for them.

I produced, wrote, and recorded my album on my equipment. I design the artwork, shot and edited my video, and created

the enhance portion of my CD. I taught myself to be as independent of opinions of outside forces as possible. I continue

to do graphic work and video editing, plus producing and recording other people as a result of that, and i wouldn’t change

a thing about me, except my organizational skills and marketabiltiy, which keep me from making the most of it.

What are your immediate future musical plans? And what are your long term goals in regards to your music?

I been thinking about putting out some more wax for the spring and maybe doing a couple of showcases or something like that.

Long term, what i would like (Pay Close Attention) is to produce music for other artist, and make the occasional guest appearence.

Kinda like Pete Rock. In other words let me do what i do best for the most direct payment psossible, and let people know who

i am without being bound to the limelight. feel me?

Out of the songs you’ve created, what is your personal favorite, and why?

I would have to say that on a musical note, it would have to be “Holdin On” cause I played the whole song myself. from piano to break.

On a lyrical note, i would have to say “When I get it” cause it represented me the best in combination of skill and content. I said a lot

in that song, but you may not pick it up, cause it was kinda targeted at certain people and types of people.

What online resources have been a help in getting your album out there, and lending their promotional support to your project? has been a dream come true for me. They based everything on independent artists and make it simple to

become a part of , and the benefits that come with it such mailing list databases, bar codes, promotional tips section, has been priceless. used to be my spot, but ever since Universal put their hand in, it’s just not the same.

My biggest promo tools has been me. I go to various forums and spread the word along with sharing info about things, and in return

i meet some good people and learn a lot about where people’s heads are at by interacting with these catz.

Tell us about your album “What Does He Think He’s Doing”.

This album was born from the need to express a few specific things about me, and explain in some detail why i mostly work alone now.

It’s not all negative, so it doesn’t come across as a strictly, i’m mad type of album, but my anger is there too. I know i can make good

music. I recognize elements of music that inspire and get people worked up positively and negatively. It’s not evenly shown throughout,

but that was because of wanting to enjoy making it as much as finally hearing it as a whole for the first time.

What’s the meaning behind Ladies Got Me Open?

It’s so crazy that you would ask me about that song, cause i felt it would likely be the most misunderstood. The song is dedication to the women

who are secure in their own, and kinda takes shots at women who purposely seek people out to benefit themselves. This is nothing new, i know,

but it seems like all i heard about women in the songs of recents years is “WE DONT LOVE THEM HOES” and we know that’s just not true. A

woman is a powerful being, and she can turn any man out if she knows what she’s doing. I am old school, so of course i see mostly the physical

beauty in women, and i love their sensuality, but i respect their mind and power, at least those of them that got them. I am a man first, so i know

the only way to say good things about the ladies were the fellas would pay attention is by making it sound almost like another bounce with me,

strip club banger. So that’s what i did. Make no mistake. I gotta lotta love for the South and respect for their influennce on music in the recent years,

so i hope it shows when catz hear that song.

What would you like to let fans know about the friends that guest appeared with you on your album? What are some of the backgrounds on these artists?

On the album you will hear a gentlemen named Kameen, who sung hooks on two songs (Only in it for the Doe, and Holdin On) , and this is a guy i grew up

with since like 8 years old. He’s an Ex hustler turned singer in the mid nineties, and he got a lot of talent just waiting to be seen by the majors, when

he makes his move.

I have Deece, who appeared with me on two songs (Only in it for the Doe, and It’s About). This is a long time underground vet, who will be making appearences

soon as he got signed not too long after we did these songs. We go back to about 96, when my partner was throwing open mics around my way and he got

down with him back then.

There is a song called DSDJ which features Tree-Natty, a very talented young man, who has been part of my inspiration due to his energy. He does some

chanting and various types of vocals and is featured on the vinyl I put out last year as a prelude to the album.

Throughout the backgrounds you can hear my man Fahtprns( Pronounced FootPrints) essentially being a hype man and doing many of the adlibs you hear.

He’s been a guiding light throughout the process, making sure i wasn’t settling for less, when i put songs together.

Lastly i have one song that features 7 other emcees besides myself. 3 of them are catz who have been on earlier projects or i have worked with from around the way.

They include Mark Machete (Newark), Dib Dab (Bloomfield), and Gambit(Trenton). The other gentlemen and the reason for this song in the first place are:

Incursion, Mic Fight (Now Brad Luck), Terrorwrist, and John Brown. These are guys i connected with on the forums and what i did was say, why not

do a song together,( The Main Event) just for the sake of pooling the talent. I was hoping we could pull off a good song, so i could make it part of my album, and

sure enough, we caught a banger. Not many songs with eight emcees, that doesn’t bore you after while. My appearence was probably the least impressive due to

the company i was keeping on that song, but it came off regardless.

On the enhanced portion of the CD i showed off production i did for other artists in my circle like: Double A, Pro(a.k.a. Nahbi), Madam Georgia,

Wrecknologee, Ghetto Island, Thai-Yan, and also Deece.

Where can fans read some reviews, or listen to some audio off the album, or purchase the album?

you can hear a few of the songs from the album plus some empty tracks at

You can buy my album at

You can buy my vinyl at in the EP section

You can see my videos and various graphic work i did at my main site

You can of course see the review i got from you guys hear, but also check out and

I believe i will also have a review up soon at

Do you have any shout outs you would like to make?

most definetely. Pardon me for forgetting anybody cause there are so many.

From my local peeps:

P-Stock, Thai-Yan, Joe Da Marketer, Kymray, Phat Dawg, Black Stuff, Kameen, Madam Georgia, all of P.B.U., Swiss Chris, Tree-Natty, Big Biz, Sulaw, Pro (a.k.a. Nahbi), B The Nightmare,

Orij, Nurriddiynn, Max Jerome of, Greg of Downtown Music, Fahtprns, Deece, wrecknologee, Snake Ize, Mark Machete, Kenny Mac, Craig Schroeder, Koach, Black 45,

and of course my wife Denice and my Kids.

my sohh fam:

Terrowrist, NJJ, John Brown, Papes, Deuce_One,Lil Maan, KingST, Sentenza, LT, Tbonesjones, Rico The Yellow Jacket, O,The Oprah Magazine, Nate_On_The_Hook,

bRiCk973, Big Shiv, Young G 818, Mc NiteQuil, GroundZer0, ScRewBALL, Stylus, Cobra, AVC, AKonArtist, Sicki, War Word, INTELLECT, Apps, Daze23, I-Hate-You

Tha Infamous $.09, ILLFiL A BLuNT, Positively Negative, ch9sab, Magneto, Jack Tripper, Shalom, Kurupt420, Beej, Nkredible, DC, Mic Soloist, Aces11, Green Lantern,

KeyloMc3, Caramel Eyes, Wondah_Woman, BEAT-CRITIC , IGOD777, beat tape king, MobbDeepQBG, OzirusBZA, Swa, Xtrajik, grendelprime, thik_3rd, rabii, and many more.

My fam:

Pseudo Croup, GAGI, illdelph215, BrunoYO, ubsscientist, djchase, raZZmataZZ, MrMasterMind

My BGOL fam:

Helic-Opter Funk, Sanada, NOHotboy1, Jflex, YoungBuck, willie3wire, Web_Guru, nick177th, trajizzim, SUN_ZOO_AKA_LOU_CYPHER, P Ditty, 10lbs_of_rigid_fury,

the Brown Hornet, bborn, sonOFazasin, majorfigga215, SummerRainstorm, Drayonis, Notorious-d187um, Native_Son, JTIMMYTT, sorry if i forgot anyone.

In particular i wanna say thanks to all the fellas that bought the CD from all these forums. Respect to yall and thanks for supportin.

Interview by DaHipHopPlace.Com

Pack FM Wouldn’t Tell Us What FM Stands For

Where you from?

Brooklyn, New York

Brooklyn is a place where a lot of emcees have come out of. Can you describe what emcees influenced you on your way up?

I wasn’t really influenced by emcees. I was more influenced by fans and my own personal tastes in music. I started rhyming after hearing “Check The Rhyme” by A Tribe Called Quest. That was 9 years ago, but I developed my own style based on whut I liked to hear.

I noticed that you have an original style. Did you pay a lot of attention to originality when you started rhyming?

I didn’t necessarily concentrate on originality as much as finding ways to say whut I want. I always used wordplay, and I let the actual flow and rhythm come naturally to me.

Would you characterize yourself more as a battle emcee, a freestyler, or just a typical song writer?

I consider myself an entertainer. You could definitely call me a battle emcee…cause I been in practically every major MCbattle tournament known to hip-hop. But I don’t limit myself to being a battle emcee. I can do so much more. My main aim is always to entertain, though.

You’ve won MANY battle tournaments, and been in a finalist in mad competitions. When you walk the streets, do people recognize you?

Yeah…it’s kinda dope. Sometimes I feel bad for not recognizing people after meeting them, but to me, fans and all hip-hoppers in general are my family, so I treat them all as such. You can ask anyone who knows me that.

I feel that. Who are some of the iller heads you’ve battled in your career?

Damn, I dont even know where to start. Some of my better battles were with heads like Tonedeff, Pumpkinhead, Substantial, and Breez Evahflowin C Rayz Walz, Many Styles and Eyedea to name a few.

That’s some great competition. Speaking of Tonedeff, you and he collaborated to come in 6th in the Napster/Rapstation contest. How’d you meet up with him, and what made you realize that you wanna be on the mic with him?

I met Tonedeff at a battle, and saw him a few times later. We talked all the time online, and we decided to do that joint for Napster. The chemistry was dope. So we did another track with me, Substantial, and Session. It was hot, so we formed a crew now known as Extended F@mm.

Cool. How’d you hook up with Substantial?

That’s a loooong story. We had a mutual friend, and I met him through her. Then I saw him twice in the same day at two different shows. One was an open mic. To get on that open mic, you had to have your name picked out of a hat. I told him if one of us gets picked, we should bring the other up on stage with. We decided to call each other

Pack*y*Stan. We didn’t on that night but we kept the name. Now we been rockin the mic for 2 years strong together.

When you’re not recording music and practicing, what do you do?

I do mad different things. I’m a closet computer geek, so when I’m not at a show, you can find me in front of a computer or spending time with my girl, or working. I know a lot about computers, so I save money by not having to pay people to do graphics and websites and things like that. Plus, people paying me that same money to do it for them.

Getting that money…

Ha Ha

To you, what characteristics describe a good emcee?

To me, a decent emcee has to know whut he wants people to hear and not worry about whut people want to hear from him. He’s gotta be confident about whut he can do, but at th same time realize his limitations in order to advance. A good emcee is not caught up in himself.

Aiight, so what’s a great emcee then?

A great emcee has mastered all those characteristics of a good emcee, great mc’s uses those characteristics to invite the audience into his world.

What producers have you enjoyed working with, and what producers do you plan/hope to work with in the future?

My main producer is O*Asiatic he’s doin’ my EP. But I’ve worked with producers such as Tonedeff, Substantial, Blowout and Celph Titled. As for producers i’d like to work with in the future, I can’t really call it it all depends on the song I wanna do and the sound I wanna get.

What are some new and future releases that will hit the streets that heads should look out for?

Hahah where to start. OK my debut 12″ is droppin this fall. It’s called “Freestyle Marathon” inspired by a 6 minute freestyle that I did for a mixtape that eventually ended up floating around the net. The B side for that will be “Sky’s the Limit” featuring my crew Dominion (Substantial and Mecca) and the Double B side will be “Who’s That” (title subject to change) featuring my boy Wordsworth. I also got the Extended F@mm (PackFM, Tonedeff) project droppin’ this winter that’s gonna be “Evils that Pens Do” (all of us on that track b/w “Rock On” me and Substantial and “Broad Band” Tonedeff and Session). After that you can look out for my solo EP entitled “whutduzFMstand4” which should drop early 2001.

What are the pressures of being an underground artist? How do you keep from selling out in a rap world dominated by the Ruff Ryders and Cash Money Millionaires?

I mean whut’s sellin’ out? Thats the pressure of being an underground MC. If you do one thing that’s not “underground” you end up losing all ya fans….or they say you fell off or sold out. When all you’re really trynna do is make music. It’s really hard man.


interviewed by HeadLine